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Harping about nothing at all….
September 22nd, 2008 under 1st Amendment, Censorship, Constitutional Rights, Free Speech. [ Comments: none ]

image Some people just don’t like us ordinary folks. Those of use who, according to Barack Hussein Obama cling to our guns and our religion out of bitterness. Use people in fly-over country, who hold good, strong beliefs about our faith, and our country.

People like the Joseph L. Conn who wrote this editorial about the how stupid and ignorant of the U.S. Constitution the majority of Americans are. see, the "State of the First Amendment" study came out recently. And this guy picked and focused on two questions on which to base his disgust of use normal people. Two questions, out of more than 40, in which the answers did not skew to his preference, and uses that to tell the rest of us regular folks how dolts we are.

Here’s the questions, and the answers:

The U.S. Constitution establishes a Christian nation.

 

2007

2008

Strongly agree

38%

36%

Mildly agree

17%

19%

Mildly disagree

15%

15%

Strongly disagree

26%

24%

DK/Ref.

4%

7%

The nation’s founders intended the United States to be a Christian nation.

 

2007

2008

Strongly agree

46%

46%

Mildly agree

19%

17%

Mildly disagree

12%

13%

Strongly disagree

19%

19%

DK/Ref.

4%

5%

Now, Ol’ Joey there is appalled, and it seems rather worried that a whopping 63% of Americans responded that they mildly or strongly agree that our founding fathers intended the US to be a Christian nation. Also, that 55% responded they mildly or strongly agree the Constitution establishes a Christian nation. Note, please, that it does NOT say a theocracy.

Here is the rub in these questions. What are the people saying when they answered these questions. There are no qualifying explanations of what they mean by a ‘Christian Nation’. If the respondent asked "what do you mean a Christian nation?" What did the questioner respond with? We don’t know this. If asked for clarification, did the interviewer assure the respondent they did not mean a theocracy, but merely a nation based on Christian principles? If that is the case (and somehow, I suspect it is), these answers are dead-on, and as they should be.

Joe spews his stuff about how the religious right has brain-washed the bunch of us. Because, you know, according to him (it would seem) we’re all a bunch of idiots who don’t know any better. I’m certain, under all that disgust, he really feels sorry for us poor saps.

What he fails to mention in his "shame on you" article is the following question:

 

1997

2000

2007

2008

Applies to all religious groups regardless of how extreme their beliefs are

69%

72%

56%

54%

Was never meant to apply to religious groups that the majority of the people consider extreme or on the fringe

24%

19%

27%

29%

Neither

2%

3%

6%

6%

DK/Ref.

5%

6%

10%

10%

So, this guy, who appears to be in fear of people wanting a theocracy, and wanting to stifle and squash the religious freedom of others, completely neglects the fact that a whopping 54% of the people believe the US Constitution applies to all religious groups regardless of their extremism. Granted, since 2000 that ideal has lost a bit of traction, but then, who would not have expected that.

Dealing with these three questions alone, I’m personally encouraged by the response people have given. Especially if you look at it objectively, without trying to read things into that may or may not be there.

I’m going to post some more on this study here in the near future – there are some fascinating responses in there, things I would not have guess, and some things which almost seem to directly contradict other answers, so stay tuned. This guy’s article just caught my attention, and my ire. It irks me when people skew the numbers just to try a make something out of nothing at all.

 

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"A Bitter America?" Well, DUH!
April 15th, 2008 under 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendment, Barack Hussein Obama, Elections, John McCain. [ Comments: none ]

image I received an email from the John McCain campaign today. In the subject line was the simple question "A Bitter America?"

The email centered around Barack Hussein Obama’s speech in that bastion of liberalness, San Francisco, in which Barack Hussein Obama "described Americans who live in small towns or other areas that have experienced a loss of jobs as "bitter" people, adding that it didn’t surprise him that they, ‘..cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.’"

This type of talk, if it what he truly believes, and not something he was simply pandering to the progressive secular elitists in San Francisco, is so far off the mark. Boiled down to its essence, what I see Barack Hussein Obama saying is, "you people who like your right to bear arms, and your right to freedom of religion, if you don’t like the current influx of illegal aliens (it seems the left always leaves out the illegal part when dealing with illegal immigration), you’re just bitter people who don’t know any better."

McCain’s response to this is:

"During the Great Depression, with many millions of Americans out of work and the country suffering the worst economic crisis in our history, there rose from small towns, rural communities, inner cities, a generation of Americans who fought to save the world from despotism and mass murder, and came home to build the wealthiest, strongest and most generous nation on earth.

They suffered the worst during the Depression, but it did not shake their faith in, and fidelity to, America. They did not turn to their religious faith and cultural traditions out of resentment and a feeling of powerlessness to affect the course of government or pursue prosperity. On the contrary, their faith had given generations of their families’ purpose and meaning, as it does today."

Now, I would have to agree that people don’t cherish their freedom to bear arms, freedom to worship as they see fit, and freedom to voice their opposition to those who break the law by illegally entering our country, but I think McCain is missing the mark. He seems to believe that those of us in fly-over country, those of us in the small towns and rural landscapes, are content. That we are not bitter. In fact, it is my experience that the opposite is true.

The people Barack Hussein Obama is speaking of are bitter. They are bitter because they see the bought-and-paid for representatives in Congress chipping away at their rights. They see the likes of the ACLU trying to silence them when they speak up, or otherwise display their love for God and Christ. They are bitter because the far left are proponents of illegal immigration, and don’t mind that people are hemorrhaging into this country at an unsustainable rate.

McCain, on the other hand, doesn’t acknowledge that bitterness. Either he doesn’t realize it is there, or he simply chooses to ignore it. Either way, it presents him as out-of-touch with America as the Democrats are painting him. I fail to see how the bitterness and distaste for our so-called representatives in Congress can in anyway shape or form be linked to the Great Depression. What is McCain getting out with this statement? I don’t see it. Maybe I’m to jaded and…bitter.

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